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Ben eigenlijk ook wel benieuwd naar het totale schaalmodel, tot nu toe alleen nog maar de onderkant gezien.
Of wordt dat het onderwerp van een komend voorpagina-artikel?
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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Johan, kom er eens in .
Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
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@ René, je voelt ‘m haarfijn aan
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Ik had al zo’n “donkerbruin” vermoeden.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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Ik heb een Pb-tje gekregen van een medeforumer en docent. Hij heeft aangeboden het model in een windtunnel te plaatsen en met zijn studenten daar metingen mee te doen,
dus ZWRTW kom er maar in.
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zwrtw, docent? Waar, HAN Automotive?
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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Na enig Google-werk kan ik dit zelf al bevestigen.
Johan, volgens mij ben je bij hem helemaal op het juiste adres!
Ben dus verrekte benieuwd naar zijn bevindingen, afwachten maar.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
Het hangt er sterk vanaf of de modellen qua grootte in het tunneltje passen. Het tunneltje is in eerste instantie gemaakt voor 1:18 schaalmodellen van auto’s. Sinds afgelopen zomer functioneert het tunneltje. Er kunnen vergelijkende metingen worden gedaan qua krachten, de absolute waarden zijn (nog) niet betrouwbaar. Trouwens: modellen kan je doorgaans niet zomaar vergelijken met de ware grootte. Gedoe met een reynoldsgetal enzo…
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Re < 2300, stroming is laminair, Re > 3500, stroming is turbulent.
Daartussen zit een lastig gebied.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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En komt Froude er ook nog aan te pas?
ex 2cv 15pk, 11BL 1938, dspecial 1973, ds pallas 23 IE bvh 1973, gs, austin princess 2300, cx 2400 break, bx 19 d, cx 2500 trd, xm 2.0 16v, mgb, mgc, Suzuki vitara, ds 21 ie pallas 1971, saxo 1.1i, sm 2.7 ie, xantia 2.0 16v, C5 3.0V6 exclusive, C4 1.6HDI, C4 1.6 16v.
Re < 2300, stroming is laminair, Re > 3500, stroming is turbulent.
En dus zal de grenslaag bij een échte auto (bij een redelijke snelheid) na enkele decimeters vanaf de voorkant al omslaan naar turbulent. Ga je een model testen met dezelfde snelheid als de échte auto, dan ben je al voorbij het model voordat de omslag van laminaire grenslaag naar turbulente grenslaag is geweest…
Wil je de plaats van omslag “op schaal”, dan moet je de aanstroomsnelheid van de lucht verhogen. Die moet voor automodellen bij schaal 1:18 echter zo hoog worden dat je boven de geluidssnelheid zou moeten komen. En dan treden er weer hele andere dingen op… (als je die snelheid al zou kunnen halen in een windtunneltje).
Het tunneltje op de HAN bereikt ca. 100 km/h windsnelheid.
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En komt Froude er ook nog aan te pas?
Ik denk het niet (maar corrigeer me als ik het fout heb…). Volgens mij is het getal van Froude van belang bij b.v. golfvorming bij testen van scheepsmodellen en deze golfvorming vergelijken met een werkelijk schip.
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- C6 (2005-2012) V6 3.0 24V
- C3 Pluriel 1.6 16v sensodrive
- C8 3.0 V6
Het model is gemaakt in de schaal 1:7 ofwel een kleine 50 cm.
Citroen U23.35 1964, Citroen Ami 6 Break 1965, Citroen Acadyana 1984, Citroen 2Cv6 Club 1987,Citroen AX 1,4 4x41996, Citroen C8 V6 Exclusive 2003, Citroen Mehari 1978, Citroen 2CV 1959, Citroen Visa GTi 115
Ai, dat gaat helaas niet lukken. Dat is écht te groot voor het tunneltje bij de HAN. Jammer! Dan moet er eerst iemand gevonden worden die de modellen 3D inscant en dan kleiner 3D uit kan printen…
Vectrix VX1; Vespa GL150 1960; BMW R1100R zijspan; WMZ3; Fiat Panda Elettra 1992; Fiat Panda 4x4 1984; CX Athéna 1980
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Geregistreerd: 23-11-2009
- GS/GSA 1220 Club break
Gaaf, een mysterie-model!
zwrtw schreef:...een Reynoldsgetal enzo…
jantje1948 schreef:...komt Froude er ook nog aan te pas?
Froude en Reynolds hebben hetzelfde doel, de ene gebruik je bij het schalen voor modellen die bewegen op water (schepen) en de andere bij beweging in lucht (vliegtuigen etc.)
Toen ik er een keer practicum had zag ik bij het Lab voor lage snelheid (LSL) op de TU in Delft automodellen staan voor in één van de tunnels, onder andere een CX met een caravan. Ze kunnen formaatje twee keer openhaardblok van Johan vast wel bergen, ik heb er alleen niet echt meer contacten, ik ga eens nadenken wie ik kan benaderen…
GS Club berline ‘73, GS Club break ‘79, Xsara 1.8 16v berline ‘99